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Interview with Milton Glaser: Designing Light

The alarms have already been sounded and the authorities are ready for flaring tensions during the Republican National Convention in New York City. Not all of the preparations target the anticipated demonstrations. There are news reports that terrorists plan to attack the massive gathering. Despite the warning from the Department of Homeland Security, demonstrators appear unwilling to cede their right to redress. So, the question is, How can legitimate disapproval and valid security concerns be balanced? Perhaps this is a job for Design (with a capital “D”). Milton Glaser’s “Light Up the Sky” acknowledges the Republican’s right to a peaceful convention and the opposition’s right to express their concerns in public. In this interview he discusses the rationale for the following proposal:

The Republicans have every right to meet and choose their candidate in our city without abuse. At the same time, the convention creates an opportunity for all of us who disagree with the culture of militarization and violence that our current leaders represent. It is time to change the mean spirited and abrasive tone of our civic discourse. We need an alternative to the harsh and degrading words and images that have filled our consciousness since the war began.

An alternative response that requires no permit

On August 30, from dusk to dawn, all citizens who wish to end the Bush presidency can use light as our metaphor. We can gather informally all over the city with candles, flashlights and plastic wands to silently express our sorrow over all the innocent deaths the war has caused. We can gather in groups or march in silence. No confrontation and. above all, no violence, which will only convince the undecided electorate to vote for Bush. Not a word needs to be spoken. The entire world will understand our message. Those of us who live here in rooms with windows on the street can keep our lights on through the night. Imagine, it's 2 or 3 in the morning and our city is ablaze with a silent and overwhelming rebuke... Light transforms darkness.

Heller:
What inspired you to design the lights project?
Glaser:
I was thinking about how dreadful the city was going to be during the convention, the rage, the acrimony, the police beating people over the head - in short, all of the dreadful images that would be produced by the confrontation. I thought there must be a better way to deal with the anger and passion that people now feel. What was needed was a solution that would not create civic disorder.

Heller:
Within weeks after the 9/11 attack a New York public arts organization, Creative Time, launched its two twin towers of light spectacle as a testament to the victims. Is there a relationship between your light project and this?
Glaser:
The image of light may have been, in part, stimulated by that brilliant twin towers of light project. But the idea of light transforming darkness is a long recurring theme in civilization.

Heller:
Given the planned demonstrations and terrorist alerts how do you think that your lights concept will impact the political discourse?
Glaser:
The benefit of the light imagery is its simplicity and avoidance of conflict. I have no idea of its effect on political discourse.

Heller: I understand that this proposal is an effort to thwart conflict, but do you envision any other effects, good or bad?
Glaser:
The viciousness of political rhetoric must be lowered. The first group to do this will help create a climate of decency and good will.

Heller:
Presidential conventions have long been rallying events for the faithful, but we know from the riots at 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago that they can also have an impact on the average voter. Should the protests turn nasty at this convention would it have a negative impact on the rest of the nation?
Glaser:
Yes.

Heller:
Former Mayor Edward Koch has recently become the poster boy for a televised campaign encouraging New Yorkers to be courteous, kind, and helpful to the city's Republican guests. How do you feel about these overtures?
Glaser:
My instinct is to treat the Republican convention with benign neglect.

Heller:
The constitutional guarantee to stage non-violent protest is, of course, a good entitlement. But you obviously have qualms.
Glaser:
I’m all in favor of non-violent protest having participated in more than a few in my lifetime. But when you have tens of thousands of people pressing up against police lines, violence becomes inevitable and ultimately counterproductive. Although people want to express their deep feelings about the political situation, what must be considered is the question of how their objectives can be realized most effectively. Rage encourages rage. Contempt encourages contempt.

Heller:
Can light (and seeing the light) really change minds?
Glaser:
I don’t know if light can really change minds. What are our other choices?
  1. link to this comment by Peter, Paul and Mary Fri Jul 09, 2004

    You call lighting a candle a plan? Here's a plan. Light a candle. Instruction #2 coming soon.

  2. link to this comment by Peter, Paul and Mary Fri Jul 09, 2004

    Alright. Alright. But seriously, anyone who agrees with sam rector (if that is his real name) go out and light a candle.

  3. link to this comment by steven heller Sun Jul 11, 2004

    The problem with PP&M's comment is that it is neither honest nor useful. Indeed this site is rife with aliases (and that is the perogative of those who post) but Glaser puts his ideas and his name on the line. One is certainly free to take issue with this proposal, but at least have the courage of your convictions and sign the comment accordingly. Moreover, while its easy to take pot-shots from the sidelines, it is more difficult to propose viable alternatives. PP&M's comment reminds me of those clients who have little vision and less to say. However, one thing a client would not do is hide behind an alias.

  4. link to this comment by Steven Heller Mon Jul 12, 2004

    Thanks John. There are obviously many strategies, and stickers, banners, and noise are as viable as any. The point is , however, this convention is being held in NYC for a good reason. The negative propaganda that can be exploited from irresponsible actions is worth its weight in votes. Sad to say, what the candidates have to say is only a small part of why people vote. Those who want to make a mark during the convention must carefully evaluate their strategies to maximize its effect on popular opinion. I can see lighting lights one night (or four) as augmenting other plans. But frankly, it would be nice to hear what other groups have planned.

  5. link to this comment by Milton Glaser Tue Jul 13, 2004

    Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in writing my proposal. My idea is not for a candlelight vigil, but rather an expression of vigorous opposition using light as a metaphor. Garments and structures of light, lights on wheels, klieg lights, lights on buildings, all can serve to express our idea.

    A mark of intelligence is the ability to understand one's own self-interest. It is clear that New York was chosen for the RNC not only to take advantage of the association with 9/11, but also because any scenes of violence and disorder in the streets would accrue to the benefit of the Republicans. Let's remember our objective: to move two or three percent of our electorate into a willingness to support the Democratic ticket.

    Aging hippies? Lighting candles? Where does this contempt come from? What is needed is more generosity of spirit and less imitations
    of right-wing divisiveness.

  6. link to this comment by Micah Wright Thu Jul 15, 2004

    I understand the idea of lighting up the city... but for those of us who don't live in NYC, our impression of that city is formed exclusively by Movies & TV which always represents NYC as completely lit up.

    I think it would be more powerful to see New York City completely darkened. That footage from last summer when the Bush Administration wasn't paying attention to fixing our energy infrastructure was some really creepy and powerful stuff.

    Plus, my way, you only need a few lefty Con Ed workers to pull it off... :)

  7. link to this comment by Rick Theis Fri Jul 16, 2004

    PP&M, Republican politicians love danger. Danger provokes fear and fear leads people to ACCEPT restrictions on freedom, government violence, and cuts in needed social programs in order to free up funding to support military and police spending.

    You should use your creativity more positively. Your macramé plant holder idea is a good start. Although you proposed it in jest, it sure beats street confrontations in making a point without causing minds to close and positions to harden.

    If we don't build bridges to people who think they disagree with us, they will never hear our convincing arguments that supporting the Republican Party does not benefit them, their communities, their country, or the world. And society will remain polarized, which benefits only the current corporate oligarchy.

    Bravo Milton Glaser!

  8. link to this comment by Adam Rotmil Wed Jul 21, 2004

    I'd like to join this thread. The light protest will be a smart addition to the ongoing meta-protest, which has been quite lively since long before Bush took office. But it also has to be said the the group trying to organize the marching protest (United for Jusice with Peace -- I think is the name) has been yanked about for over a year regarding where that protest can be held. In my view, we should support them on principle, as well as adding to it with the symbolic light protest. As for the propaganda Mr Heller mentions, that will continue regardless of our behavior. We saw it wipe out Howard Dean; saw it dismiss Kucinich from the start; saw the bizarre leverage of what it means to be a patriot; saw Ronald Reagan apotheosized for votes. These messages are just like advertising -- they can always be manufacted from something or from nothing. Meanwhile, it seems to me that we should use every available channel in our ongoing global protests.

  9. link to this comment by christian Tue Aug 10, 2004

    I think it's a great idea... Light a candle and be quiet!! It will be a nice change to all those annoying catchy sloagans you increadibly creative people come up with at your protests.

  10. link to this comment by sam Sun Aug 15, 2004

    Milton's light project has a challenger. The whistle nownyc.org has proposed a whistle blowing campaign. Everyone left in NYC should carry a whistle and blow it at predetermined intervals. The only problem with this and Milton's is the possibility that it might be misconstrued as celebrating the GOP, heaven forbid.

    Another protest, http://partisanproject.org , will be making posters. But what I hope is that banners will hang from hundreds of windows in NYC telling the GOP they are not wanted here.

  11. link to this comment by Jim Sadler Mon Aug 16, 2004

    The first step in deciding how to behave during the Republican convention is to understand why the thousands of people who are planning to be there are making the effort. The two main factors driving the protests as far as I can see are anger and grief. This stems from the shock and disbelief of watching our country being moved so effortlessly in the direction of fascism. Dread also plays an important role as we move toward the election not as a political event but rather as we might move toward a precipice from which we might never return.
    I absolutely agree that violence would be the worst outcome of these events. The positive spirit displayed at the Democratic convention was powerful, even if a bit forced, and certainly seemed a pragmatic solution to attract swing voters and win the election. It even managed to offer a positive means of channeling anger, grief and dread away from destructive behavior and into positive action. But that was a well-organized and wholly political event.
    The upcoming protests may be quite impossible to direct from the top down. I marched during the pre-war protests that were held around the world and the mass behavior was unlike anything I could ever have anticipated – determined and angry, yet sanely peaceful. I think that came about due to the sheer relief at realizing we weren’t as isolated in our dread as we thought. That cold February day remarkably turned into a day of hope felt all around the globe. Perhaps similar chemistry will render all our suggestions irrelevent.
    The Republican convention on the other hand is more like discovering that a neighbor’s house is on fire. I don’t think the neighbors would find a silent vigil an appropriate response particularly not with candlelight and battling with the firefighters and police would be equally absurd. Someone yelling “Fire! Fire!” might be useful and calling or running for help would probably not hurt much either. And if the professionals were not available some water from a hose, a ladder up to the second floor window and some might even be inclined to undertake acts of heroism.
    My point is that the people on the ground each are looking for some practical way to prevent the coming catastrophe. Time is running out, so there will be an even greater sense of urgency at this gathering to sound the alarm. I’m sure that violence is a last resort for most who will be there and will do anything collectively to prevent it. Therefore, if any influence from above were going to be effective it would need to take the form of channeling the anger and grief.
    Two ways come to mind. One would be to provide space for people to express themselves in their own words. I think of the personal messages plastered everywhere after 911 that later became the focus of news stories. These could be photographed and archived for greater message longevity than marching and chanting alone could provide. More importantly, it would be a way for individuals to be heard (read). Providing some open space for such shouldn’t be that difficult such as at a construction site and letting it evolve from there. DPW will complain, but it’s better than cleaning up broken glass and overturned vehicles.
    The second is more symbolic and visual. Everyone wear black! That should be easy for most New Yorkers and getting the word out should be fairly simple. No black wardrobe? Buy a black trash bag, cut some holes in the bottom and wear it like a tunic. And as a point of focus, carry a large funeral pyre holding the prone body of lady liberty. This should be quite large requiring dozens of pal-bearers. The procession could be as noisy and expressive as marches usually are but the funeral procession would provide a dramatic message equal to the serious manner in which people will be taking this march. Here the expression becomes more collective rather than individual, but effective in that the marchers will feel that their concerns are being expressed.
    For things to remain peaceful, protesters need to know that their message is getting out. Numbers alone usually provide such reassurance, but ideas such as the ones just mentioned reinforce the concerns that these activities are producing results. I’m sure others will have even more effective solutions than those just mentioned. Participation in such proposals needs to be easy, inclusive and should feel quite natural. Mr. Glaser’s suggestions may or may not be effective in that regard, depending on the degree to which protesters feel comfortable with them and part of them. Even something as simple as asking everyone to wear black might be impossible to pull off.
    For most, getting there will be a sacrifice, which reflects personal commitment and strong desire. It is extremely important that whatever message emerges will need to come from within. This is not the place for a media fest. Most will be there because they are tired of being manipulated. The best solutions will allow those gathered a means of expression other than violence. They will know exactly why they are there and want to be certain that the rest of the world understands as well.

    Jim Sadler, Sunderland, Massachusetts

  12. link to this comment by ben Sun Aug 22, 2004

    PP&M-why are you giving others such a hard time? Try not being so sure that you are right. If your ideas were so great and original we'd all know it and you would have to bash anyone. you're bashing=your not really being constructive.

    milton. i'm on this site now because i logged-on to find for a nonviolent way to protest in NYC next week. i think this one passes the gandhi test. is there anymore info available? where and when?

    see link for funny pic of bush-freeimageupload.com

  13. link to this comment by Tom Schreiber Fri Aug 27, 2004

    LIGHT UP THE SKY promises to light up many imaginations and send a very positive message.

  14. link to this comment by Peter Yarrow Fri Aug 27, 2004

    Dear All,

    I'm Peter Yarrow, of Puff The Magic Dragon (dubious) notoriety, and I'm helping with all my might to make sure Light Up The Sky succeeds (fabulously) ~ and spreads like a "positive virus".

    Please join me, anywhere at all in New York, on Aug.30. between sunset and dawn, next morning, Aug 31. Just go outside and light up the skyl with a flashlight or candle or plastic wand, or open your window and let your window light shine.

    As for me, I'll be roaming around Park Avenue and 57th St, guitar in hand, singing "Puff the Lit-Up Dragon", "The Answer is Blowing in the Light", " If I Had A Flashlight", "Light one Candle" (or anything else you have on hand that produces lumens) ~ and of course, the ever meaningful and appropriate, "This Light Of Mine".

    I'll have no cup in hand, but will have a big smile on my face in solidarity with y'all. I'll either see you in person, or know of your presence by virtue of a photograph that will be taken from the sky during the event.

    Please do feel free to light up my day (and night, is OK as well) with a blog post on this website to me, which I will answer, I promise.

    In Light and Solidarity, and an end to the current national dialogue of acrimony in our courntry, and a return to sanity and relief from fear and hatred, which has injured our beloved country so painfully and quickly in recent years,

    I remain,

    Peter Yarrow
    Peter, Paul & Mary

    P.S. I've done three interviews with Milt on Bloomburg Radioi (to 255 stations), WLIB, NPR in Long Island, and one on New York 1, TV, two days ago....

    But the real energy for spreading the word on this is all of you reading this who have realized that simply by standing outside and lighting your light (of any sort) between dusk and dawn, Aug 30 - 31, YOUR "VOICE" WILL BE HEARD.

    To reache a critical threshold, we are hoping for all of you reading this and other blog entries to email others, perhaps download Milton's interview, above, and send out in a blast email to all those you think might help.

    THE TIME FOR UTILIZING THIS REMARKABLE TOOL IS NOW! GHANDI AND DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING WOULD BE PROUD!

  15. link to this comment by Peter Yarrow Fri Aug 27, 2004

    Dear Jessi, (please see urgent P.S. Below)

    I'm trying to get folks to email you to help you put up posters in the New York area. You’re out there alone doing this over the weekend and you need some help, right now! I’d go out with you in a hot second, but I’m in Portland, OR.

    I love your spirit, I’m totally grateful, I just am doing another Light Blog entry, and I'm with you 100%!

    Love, In Peace, as always,

    .....and

    HUGE THANKS TO YOU!

    Peter

    :>)

    URGENT, TIMELINE P.S. Any one of you who reads this personal message and can help Jessi put up posters, please do email her on this blog with a return email address and please, go for it. I’d be there with you, if I could.

    From: Jessi with Light Up The Sky
    Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:00:22 -0400

    Subject: posters being torn down shamefully

    A woman just wrote into our website to inform us that there was a group going around and tearing down all the posters the SVA kids put up yesterday... She called them an RNC Watch group. Has anyone heard of
    this? I don't know why I'm surprised, but I am... Milton's idea is so peaceful that it disgusts me to think of people being so hateful.

    I'm hanging one downstairs from my apartment now, and I don't care if I have to hang up 100 posters - every time someone tears it down, I will replace it. Just thought I should keep you abreast.

    Best,
    Jessi
    _________________

  16. link to this comment by Jessi Fri Aug 27, 2004

    Thank you for your support, Peter. I though I would share just a few of the responses we’ve received via the Light Up The Sky website over the past days. Hopefully they will inspire others to share their ideas.

    __________________________________________

    Great idea. May the republicans be dazzled.
    An Austrian designer.

    This really should be a national event. I realize it isn't far off, but I've planned a vigil for Chicago with a few friends on the lakefront for that evening.

    I just read the Village Voice article about Light Up the Sky and I have to say that it is a great idea. While I do not live in New York City, I live in Manhattan, Kansas or as we commonly refer to it--The Little Apple--yeah I know its kinda lame, I am very tempted to join in. I remember hearing a few weeks back about the protests and someone suggesting that something should be done at Ground Zero during the convention. To me this would be a great place for people to congregate every night of the convention with candles, flashlights, and other lights? don't know if this is something anyone would be interested in doing, but I just thought I would pass along an idea I had. Thanks for putting together this great idea and I hope that everyone in New York participates.

    I'm not American and feel same as you do. Change must come... the sooner the
    better! Well articulated, keep up your good work! Montréal

    I am from Houston, TX and I am a proud Democrat!! I heard about Light Up The Sky on Air America Radio several months ago? It sounds like a great idea, such a unique way to protest - wish I could be in NYC to see it.

    Why not the entire US? I live in Michigan, and my lights will be on.

    The images of light transforming the darkness of hubris and destruction wreaked by this Bush administration is very powerful and potentially part of a process of transformation. How fitting for New York City to be the place of healing. San Diego, CA

    On August 30th, everyone in the nation should light up the sky. Turn on your porch lights, turn on the back yard lights, etc. Expand the stage to the rest of the nation.

    I am sending this out to hundreds of friends. It's brilliant, in more ways than one!!! Hats off to all of you! I'd like to get this going in Portland, Oregon

    I live in the Adirondacks. I'm hoping to get people together here to do the same? I'm thinking of climbing some small mountains (plural depending a how many people participate).with lanterns etc.

    What a fantastic idea? I am going to suggest that we do the same in Oakland, CA where we live. The whole world needs to know how much ordinary folk disdain the war machine and the stooges in the white house that keep it going. In solidarity, Steve

    This is a campaign that should have a great impact upon the city of Manhattan and certainly affect those within the Republican party as well. Other cities across the country following suit would be such a blessing for the world. Shining silence has a very sacred dimension to it.

    THANK YOU – Will from Raleigh

  17. link to this comment by Larry of Soho Sat Aug 28, 2004

    In lighting up August 30th,let us all constitute an eternal light as a living momument to the undying spirits within us that reflect the singular moments of each persons life; creating a permanent imprint on the consciousness of this generation and the next. Let our illuminations on August 30th be the first to symbolize,the eternal light of our collective consciousness that reflects the intensity against all political oppression that challenges us every since 9/11/01/.
    We will not be villified, and destroyed by our enemies. We can become a single light in the dark to bring our power to protect life's integrity and sanctity against all odds, and celebrate our humanity and those who preceded us who no longer can respond to this challenge.
    Let this day of illumination be a landmark to remind us of who we are, and the values we hold sacred as people with visions of the value of life and humanity. We must never forget.

  18. link to this comment by polly bukta Sun Aug 29, 2004

    Prterz; Thank you for your message. I have really been feeling down about the race going in the Bush direction because of the ad on the swiftboat catching on, and putting Bush back in the lead. Your message lilfted my spirits, and gave me hope again. You have that great abillity to do that.

    Please keep the fire lit. We need you.

    Polly Bukta, Clinton Iowa

  19. link to this comment by pamela patrick Sun Aug 29, 2004

    When I saw the poster for Light Up the Sky, I was immediately drawn to the concept. Certainly the power of light to conquer darkness is universal metaphor that has definte application in how ,as a concerned disgruntled citizen,to use the occassion of the Republican national Convention,to peacefully exercise my civil liberties to protest our nation's destructive policies both at home and abroad. I am grateful to have been offered an alternative to the frustration of direct confrontaion that I experienced(we were nearly 2 million strong) while trying to protest the war last February here in New York. Obviously, however, the people must be present and accounted for and I applaud those that will stand in protest. Thanks for the opportunity for this exchange and for the inspiring and poetic response to an otherwise dark and depressing situation.

  20. link to this comment by peter yarrow Sun Aug 29, 2004

    Dear All,

    I just spoke to Jessi who is distributing "Light" posters with her friends. It's 1pm in NYC. Jessi was interviewed, live at the march, on CNN for about 1 minute and a half, taling about "Light"; it's existence and our objectives.

    I'm so proud of her and all of you supporting this effort.

    Love and Peace, as always,

    Peter

    Bravo to you, Jessi. Go get em!

    I so wish that I could be there with you to participate, hands on, by handing out the leaflets on the march.
    Dear Jessi,

    Overall, I'm excited and hopeful that we'll be starting an approach, envisioned by Milton, that will rally folks who have felt alienated, confused and powerless.

    Light Up the Sky might provide them with a platform to actually do something concrete, feel close together, and emerge once again as a positive political force.

    We desperately need to break through this gray haze of depressed inaction and confusion that has plagued people of conscience for so long. The vitality of civil democratic dialogue must be re-ignited!

    You're a wonder and our trusted, intrepid spirit!

    Love to you, wonderful Jessi,

    Peter

  21. link to this comment by Marsha Spring Sun Aug 29, 2004

    Dear Peter, Milton and all:

    I'm in Phoenix, but my spirit is with you. I will light my candle at dusk New York Time.

    Peace.

    Marsha

  22. link to this comment by Peter Yarrow Sun Aug 29, 2004

    This is a personal message from me that, hopefully, will help us all, to transcend the very acrimonious and meanspirited dialogue of our times that is so injurious to our democracy and our country. This message is really an appeal to you/everyone to frame our national discoure outside of the arena of vituperation and mud-slinging that has pervaded our senses for so long.

    This appeal is beyond partisan exchange. Rather, it’s an appeal to come to our senses and let democracy work — within the context of a rational, respectful dialogue without resorting to emotional and reputational blood-letting.

    If you agree, whatever your choice might be in the coming election, do join me in the spirit of a mutual call to our countrymen and countrywomen everywhere, to celebrate our land, our legacy of freedom by acting together and exchanging with one another, peacefully and with civility, in the spirit of this call to action (see below and attached).

    We’ve done it before. Martin Luther king lit the way. Now, together, let us do so again.

    “Win of lose now,
    You must choose now,
    And if you lose, you’re only losing your life.

  23. link to this comment by Peter Yarrow Sun Aug 29, 2004

    Dear Polly,

    Your message to me, below, gives me hope as well.

    People like yourself, from all over the country, are sending messages to us, deciding how to continue the Light Up The Sky type of civil and peaceful, but powerful, demonstration that is gaining momentum every minute. The brilliance of Milton Glaser’s concept is that it allows participation for everyone, everywhere.

    It is one in which each person, wherever they are, can voice their opinion and be part of the necessary dialogue of democracy, so terribly suppressed under the Bush Administration.

    As for the attacks on John Kerry’s war record, such attacks by the Bush family are now infamous, as with W’s attack on Senator John McCain’s wartime record during the (R) primary of 2,000, to the elder Bush’s spreading of a baseless rumor that stuck to Kitty Dukakis, asserting that she had burned an American flag (see the New York Times, today in the Week In Review section). Others such baseless rumors are cited as well.

    All these Bush rumors were engineered by “an invisible hand”, disavowed by the Bush campaign as not coming from their ranks, as has been the attack on John Kerry.

    The good news, however, is that the attack on Kerry seems to be backfiring now, as more and more Vietnam Vets and sincerely patriotic Americans are asserting this this charge is effectively an attack on the credibility and honor of all decorated veterans— especially on members of the Swift Boat that Kerry commanded – and on America’s honor as well. The smear tactics are not working in this case. Hopefully this will help us go forward with a diminution of the same as the campaign goes forward.

    I send you my thanks for posting your message, Polly, and the chance to share these thoughts with you and other www.lightupthesky.org contributors and readers.

    In Peace, as always,

    Peter



    Peter; Thank you for your message. I have really been feeling down about the race going in the Bush direction because of the ad on the Swift Boat catching on, and putting Bush back in the lead. Your message lilfted my spirits, and gave me hope again. You have that great ability to do that.

    Please keep the fire lit. We need you.

    Polly Bukta, Clinton Iowa

  24. link to this comment by Peter Yarrow Sun Aug 29, 2004

    Dear, wonderful, intrepid Jessi,

    I and my friends encountered on the road (in Spokane, WA today) are hugely encouraged by your words, your spirit and your dogged determination - and by the joy you express in your message below.

    Thank you also for the recognition of those who have done this kind of organizing and outreach before. I, personally, am honored to be walking beside you, as I am sure, are Milton and the rest of the "bunch" to whom this is being emailed.

    I send you unending praises and congratulations for your effectiveness and your spirit that has lit up the sky (to coin a phrase) for me today.

    See you tomorrow on the streets of New York, perhaps. I'll have a miner's lantern on my head and my guitar in hand.

    Love and Peace, wondrous, young, stalwart Jessi,

    Peter

    ------ Forwarded Message

    From: Jessi with Light Up The Sky

    Hello all,

    The rally was amazing today! Very
    positive, and I haven't heard of any arrests yet. I also heard from one of the legal observers that they think around 40,000 were in attendance. ( Noter from PY: I suspect, Jessi, from the news reports, it may have been several times that size, but we'll see. Doesn't matter terribly. It was peaceful and it was prominently covered by the media. That's all good news. Peter)

    From 10 to 4, my roommate and I distributed 5,000 leaflets about Light Up The Sky. It was such a great feeling when people said "Oh, I've heard about this!" or "This is a great idea!" which happened on several
    occasions. Many others also said, "We saw you on TV this morning" because at 11, I was interviewed for CNN and I talked about Light Up The Sky for about a minute and a half. It was great! People all over
    the country called me and said they saw it.

    There are many more things I would like to do, such as get materials to the ACLU Protecting Protest storefront at 36th and 8th or get some more posters up around town in key areas, but I'm about to collapse. I will
    try to do more tonight, but being on your feet in the blazing sun yelling information for hours can really take it out of a girl.

    Of course, I have to admit that even when I was seeing spots I was loving every minute of it! Let's just say I have a newfound respect for all
    those who have come before me.

    Best,
    Jessi
    ____________

  25. link to this comment by ilona Sun Aug 29, 2004

    Wonderful idea...good luck tonight. We'll be watching in Chicago.

  26. link to this comment by morourke Mon Aug 30, 2004

    God Bless you folks for your stamina, determination,participation and conviction.
    The lights will shine tonight in cities throughout the U.S. in our support and solidarity with all who work for peace and justice.
    May there be peace on earth and may it begin
    with me.
    Maureen

  27. link to this comment by Chris Pawelski Mon Aug 30, 2004

    Ah...something to do....something that makes a statement without being "in your face"....something that is as easy as turning a switch, or flicking a match is exactly what the doctor ordered! Health is not a quick fix....life is not a quick fix.....peace is not a quick fix! It is one day at a time with clear focus. So congratulations on helping us all come "out of the shadows" and into the light! MAY WE ALL start truly seeing....and believing! My light will glow tonight!

  28. link to this comment by Helen O'Neil Mon Aug 30, 2004

    I love the idea of light. 'If your eye is single, then your body is full of light,' Jesus said. 'It is better to light one candle than curse the darkness,' is another. The idea is hopeful, peaceful, and powerful because LIGHT cannot be ignored.

    I'm in Boston and will turn on a light tonight.

    thank you
    Helen O'Neil

  29. link to this comment by Cathy Webster Mon Aug 30, 2004

    "it is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness"...thanks for your great idea. I will be shining light in our darkness in California tonight. Funny, a friend is organizing a Nov. 2 election "vigil", here in Chico, with the same vision of lighting up the night for a "Back to the Ranch" sendoff of Mr. Bush. We hope poeple the world over will be joining in. Solidarity works!

  30. link to this comment by Christine Weiss Mon Aug 30, 2004

    I applaude your clear intentions. We will be lighting up our little nook of the Ozark Mountains with you. Truly, the time for such action has come.

  31. link to this comment by matte Mon Aug 30, 2004

    I implore all of my fellow travelers in the cedarhurst town of long island new york to light up the sky

  32. link to this comment by Cayobo Mon Aug 30, 2004

    Bette Midler promoted this idea on The Randi Rhodes Show today.
    Let's all leave a light on or light a candle in protest of the policies of the current ruling party of America.
    Here's a clickable realtime map of Earth from space for us to keep an eye on our city and region:

    http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/uncgi/Earth/action?opt=-p

  33. link to this comment by Victoria A. Vetere, PhD,HC Mon Aug 30, 2004

    In the face of darkness (fear) the only answer is Light. I would suggest this be done on 9/11, and again on 9/30 and 10/30. Whatever the outcome of the election (let's hope we really have one this time), let the light shine every month on the 30th.

  34. link to this comment by MA'THA Mon Aug 30, 2004

    BTW - the post of july 9th is NOT from peter, paul and mary

    that is not the way the speak nor how they would express their ideas.

    this idea is so wonderful milton that i'm going to do it in los angeles, ca and hope my firends follow.

    why not every monday up to election day or the first monday of the month and then the last would be sunday, monday and election day!

    i could see it growing over the weeks - the view from space would be spectacular.

    i saw a little of the closing ceremonies of the olympics yesterday and when the lights were lit and the stadium glistened - that's what our lights should look like, but instead of a stadium in greece, all over america - what a sight to see - the people standing up peacefully showing their dislike for the current administration through light - amazing

    MA'THA

  35. link to this comment by Delphys Tue Aug 31, 2004

    This message to the world that light must be shed on our political process, and that light must prevail is one that needs to be proclaimed OFTEN! What is planned next? We need to continue to spread the word!
    "Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me." Pax, Delphys

  36. link to this comment by Frances J. Elfenbein Tue Aug 31, 2004

    Tomorrow,Wednesday 9/1,in the early morning, there will be another opportunity to silently voice our concerns and anger.

    With color this time, not light. 5000 people will silently wave pink slips in a line from Wall Street to Madison Square Garden.

    I hope the media will wake early enough to document "The Line" because it resonates in the heartland as well as the canyons of our city.

    We can protest silently but we must be visible to
    those who have not yet seen the light or the color.

  37. link to this comment by Barry Nisman Tue Aug 31, 2004

    "Light one candle for the strength that we need
    TO NEVER BECOME OUR OWN FOE
    And light one candle for those who are suffering
    Pain we learned so long ago
    Light one candle for all we believe in
    That anger not tear us apart...."

    i highlighted dear Peter's words from Light One Candle as it seems to me, a veteran of the McGovern campaign, the Mondale compaign, the Dukakis, and numerous NY State elections, that the progressives have their eye on the just prize, but too too often allow the democracy that we covet as a nation ironically tear us apart, or weaken us, during such challenging and imperative battles as the one that confronts us now. That Ralph Nader continues to do battle with what he sees as duplicate villains is a shortsided, almost suicidal view of what is if not the sure path we must follow (Kerry) than at least one that offers possibilities and is open to progressive influence (also Kerry). I wish Mr. Nader would heed the sagacity of Peter's lyrics above, and not let us turn against ourselves

    Like many of you I can list a page of items supported by the Bush presidency that offends me, but more than anything else has been their contribution to the diminishing lack of CIVILITY in our nation, and world wide. The sanctity of life has been diluted. Avarice wins out over justice and the old fashioned sense of neighborhood. Within these pages one can see an anger, a wish to demean, to mock, and we see the Administration hesitating not one bit to villify. So, dear friends, the need for change is as great as I can recall in my 50 years of breathing and walking upon this glorious planet.

    Having said that, I urge folks like Peter, and Mr. Glaser, and any and all of you who have closer proximity to John Kerry and his advisors, to learn a lesson from the Right. At no point should Mr. Kerry forfeit his dignity, nor lay down in the gutter with those who have no ethics. However, there must be a 'roar' if you will.....there must be a cornucopia of strategies that can penetrate the Machiavellian genius of Karl Rove.
    I would like to continue to light candles. I will not lift my arms in anger, nor throw a rock from frustration. But I will sing to the heavens if Mr. Kerry stepped it up a bit, like a commander of forces who looks at his ammunition and plots his strategy accordingly.
    This election will not be won without a tremendous outpouring from the African American community. Middle of the road Dems, and Repubs, must see the strength of Kerry's character but also the ability to duke it out. This is no easy task, it is not in our nature to risk getting down and dirty. It is time now for Kerry and Edwards, and Clinton, and Jackson, and Tommy Franks, to roll up their sleeves and tell Bush and Rove that you cannot continue to steal our country and the ideals we feel it should represent.
    Like the Maccabees, it might take a miracle to defeat this enemy of greed and negativity and arrogance. Peter, and colleagues, it is wonderful to start by lighting our candles, but I ask you to urge the campaign to light a fire under itself and to inspire itself to look this Administration in the eye and tell them, we shall, with our dignity, match you step by step, and then more so!
    May God help us redirect ourselves to the path to civility.

    I wish you all good health and safe times.
    Barry

  38. link to this comment by Kate Myers Thu Sep 02, 2004

    Hi y'all!

    To the poster below who opined that Light Up the Sky is not newsworthy, I am honored to announce that I am making a documentary about the protest. Additionally, Milton Glaser has given numerous interviews regarding Light Up the Sky, including interviews on NPR, Air America and several television news broadcasts. Jessi Arrington gave a wonderful interview on CNN on location at the march by United for Peace and Justice, which was held on August 29, 2004. Bianca Jagger gave an interview about Light Up the Sky on August 30th on ABC News. Tomorrow on Fox News Channel, between 8:50 and 9:00 a.m. EST, a segment of the documentary footage will air on "Fox and Friends." Be sure to watch in your time zone! (Note: all footage released was carefully edited for content. We anticipate that the protest will be shown in the positive light it deserves).

    At Peter Yarrow's request, please find a letter I wrote to him regarding his documentary interview, clips of which were also furnished to Fox News Channel for possible inclusion in its broadcast tomorrow.

    If anyone has any questions regarding the documentary, please feel free to e-mail at the above address. And, as Peter so eloquently put it during his interview, "Let your light shine on!"

    Regards,
    Kate Myers, Filmmaker
    __________________________________________
    Dear Peter,

    It was a delight to meet you Monday night for the Light Up the Sky protest. One
    of the police officers outside The Four Seasons remarked, "This is my
    favorite protest of all," and I have to agree with him.

    I did my best in the editing studio yesterday to carefully select footage, which
    was happy but not foolish. With regard to your interview, I included your
    comments at the beginning about the protest being the seminal event of protests,
    which coalesces the spirit of light, and about light transforming darkness.
    Then I included, "How does one have a voice without having to apply for a
    permit from the mayor of the city of New York?" and the comment about
    letting the message to the world be that we are a nation of peace and
    compassion. And I included your parting words, "Let us not be dim of
    spirit...." and your impromptu, a cappella song "This Little Light of
    Mine." I really hope they include that because it really touched me. The
    total footage (of your interview) was approximately 2.5 minutes.

    The only other footage, which included you were the group shots of the protest,
    first on Park Avenue and later at Union Square. I also included a short clip of
    you singing to the police when we were outside the Four Seasons, which I thought
    was the highlight of the evening. The police are shown smiling back and
    enjoying themselves.

    I spoke with the producer, Sebastian Hill, from Fox News to confirm the thrust
    of the piece is to highlight positive ways to protest, which are in contrast to
    “ranting and raving.” I do believe that they will use footage, which will
    further that agenda and will not put anyone associated with Light Up the Sky in
    a negative light. That said, it is Fox News, so accept that as a caveat.

    Peter, thank you again for your time, energy and passion for this cause. I will
    forward a DVD of the documentary once it is completed. It was my great pleasure to meet you, and I hope we
    will stay in touch.

    Warmest regards,

    Kate

  39. link to this comment by Peter Yarrow Fri Sep 03, 2004

    Another personal note and update:

    I'm so glad to report that the events of Tuesday night beautifully reiterated the concept of, and the tradition of, Monday's Light Up The Sky event in New York City.

    The service at Riverside Church on Tuesday from 7pm to 9pm included my and Bianca Jagger's presentations in word and song. The focus of the service was specifically non-partisan, and was a part of a newly formed national movement of the clergy called "Let Justice Roll".

    The focus of this movement is on poverty, not just as a phenomenon to be addressed with charitable concern and action, but this call to action identifies poverty as a result of a series of unjust societal choices. Poverty is seen, virtually, as a violation of a right that all should enjoy in the U.S., given the vast economic wealth and resources of the nation.

    In short, the causes of poverty were addressed by clergy of many faiths and denominations, about 40 clergy persons in all. Their message was brought home powerfully by testimony from people who live, or lived, in poverty or who worked in organizations that are addressing the heartbreaking challenges poor people face. Some spoke eloquently and movingly about their own struggle to break out of the cycle of poverty - their successes, their determination, and their view of the societal inequity that makes their efforts so terribly difficult and frequently ineffective.

    Those attending the service were asked to consider their own actions and advocacies, in their life beyond last night's service, judging for themselves whether or not policies advanced by our government and our society contributed to what is now viewed, not as the problem of, but the injustice of, poverty.

    It was suggested that the actions of people based on such considerations might determine a great deal about our future as a country and a world.

    It was a beautiful, inspiring service and clearly a call to conscience beyond the history of previous such movements. The consideration of poverty as being inherently unjust is a real step forward, an urgent and surely a righteous one, in my opinion.

    At the end of the service, the participants from Riverside Church and from other parishes went out on the streets lining Broadway as far South as 72nd St and as far North as 123re street, and shined their lights up to the sky, as we had the evening before. There was much joy and community in that action, as there was the night before.

    It was not a massive gesture, but it was a valid and important one, never-the-less, and another shining link in a new and powerful chain.

    Bottom line, the beauty of the concept of what Milton Glaser created, and what all of you have helped to develop as a positive and peaceful action for expressing ourselves in the world of today's difficulty in obtaining permits, has now been continued. I suspect that many more such demonstrations will go forward as time goes on.

    Last, apparently, some of the footage of our little, stalwart group that participated in Light Up The Sky has been requested by FOX TV. Selected pieces will be given them and we are hopeful that positive and balanced reporting and representation will follow.

    I will keep you up to date on developments as we go forward as will others involved in our effort.

    Thanks to all of you,

    In Peace, as always,

    Peter

  40. link to this comment by Barry Nisman Wed Sep 08, 2004

    I don't watch TV news much. The pundits scream and demean each other, and in another forum I think we need to discuss what 24 hour news has done to society, where FOX and CNN etc have to create news to sustain their viewership....and tv wannabes like Novak, and his ilk and even a Carville going batty (like his viscious wife) for the candidate I support thrive; they make more money acting like fools on TV than they did with limited readership in their print journalism days....but I do occasionally watch Lehrer, PBS seems to have a civil approach to pundits discussing the issues, pro and con.....and it is becoming apparent that many who support Kerry and progressive initiatives, like I stated earlier, are observing the election being lost as Kerry maintains the high road....it is a hard call; one would like to think absolute dignity wins out over villification, but many of us are hearing "if he won't swing back at accusations about his war record, how will he combat terrorists.....?"
    I know from my own mailings that MoveOn.org and others are preparing ads that are now seriously questioning the President on his military service and other ethical questions.....It hurts me to say that I see no other choice, other than to take satisfaction in a highly ethical LOSS at the polls.
    It's unfortunate that one cannot feel confident that there is a mentality among the masses that views integrity and focus on the issues as more important than mendacious sound bites and vapid plans for those many people suffering within, and outside, our borders.

    Barry

  41. link to this comment by Barry Nisman Wed Nov 03, 2004

    When a dream dies, a period of mourning is necessary. Many of us are 'grieving' now.......we are baffled that what seems so clear to us is unclear to our neighbors in the midwest, the south, OHIO.......we will rest just a bit, allow wounds to heal, and we will then re-energize, to move on with this serious matter of having our civility and compassion as a nation returned to us.

  42. link to this comment by Sam r Fri Nov 05, 2004

    This is not a time to let grief take over and stop us from excercising our right to protest. There is NO honeymoon period. The administration has had its chance. Bush may indeed think he has absolute power, but through our visual manifestations, we can show him there is still a 49% minority that is vocal, visual, and vital.

  43. link to this comment by Barry Nisman Thu Nov 11, 2004

    At sites such as this one, it appears that the need to grieve pops up, in a fashion most of us can't remember......a lifetime of elections, Reagan, Bush, Nixon...........something different is happening now. We feel the basic precepts of democracy are being usurped, and somehow we are out of step with what we perceived to be American ideals.
    Durkheim introduced the concept of 'anomie' and I strongly suggest that what separates this past election from others is that we are detached from what appears to be the dominant principles, mores, ethics, of the American community. The 'red states' are a foreign land. We stand in line at arenas to be searched. We live amid alerts of varying colors, and while we should trust our resilience, we wonder how deep rooted religious fundamentalism has become in our society, no less world wide.
    I agree with the post below; this is no time to surrender, the challenge is great, the need for proactivity is paramount. Yet, it is important to identify why we are so disconsolate, why we felt this election HAD to be won.
    The American Dream is not simply an ideal, but a game plan. What is needed is tenacity and compassion, and remembering those before us who kept their eyes on the prize.
    Personally, I have not yet bounced back. I will, and so will others who feel we are facing an enemy from within. Posts like those on this site help remind me that I am still surrounded by brothers and sisters who are both civil and noble.

  44. link to this comment by Accessible Website Development Wed May 28, 2008

    I recently saw a video interview with Milton Glaser from Hillman Curtis or Coudal Partners (can't remember) but it really gave me a lot of respect for Mr. Glaser and the way he goes about things.

  45. link to this comment by Sue Apfelbaum Thu May 29, 2008

    Hillman Curtis did make a short film on Milton Glaser. You can view it here:
    http://www.aiga.org/artist-video-series

    And here: http://hillmancurtis.com/hc_web/film_video/source/milton.php

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